- and by the way McCain, we ain't friends!
Courtesy mediamatters.org. It gets really interested about 2 minutes in.
And lets all remember, the point of the surge was not just stabilization in and of itself. The point was to stabilize Baghdad so that the Iraqi government could make necessary political progress across religious and ethnic lines. That hasn't taken place to the degree that I would consider "successful." So, Katie Couric's being a little misleading there.
Also, the "surge" is not an overall strategy that included sending more troops. The "surge" was sending in more troops. They called it the "surge" to stop the media from calling it an escalation in troops. So, McCain being wrong and disingenuous.
Update: Read Bob Herbert's take.
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